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10 - 50 microns prints? - Creatr HS

Hi. We are thinking about buying a Creatr HS but we haven't found any photo of prints at the highest layer resolution of thus machine. Anyone that have printed something at high resolution whiling to share some photos? Thanks!

may i ask for what projects you'd like to use the printer ?
I myself own a Creatr HS and didn't use a layer resolution below .05mm ever.
The change in print quality is not extreme, however the smaller layers work better for overhangs or parts like custom made Legos.
The following picture shows a lego connector (the white one), which is printed on a Creatr HS, you see just some tiny grooves with your eye, my smartphone camera (14mp) wasn't able to focus on such a small distance so that you can see these grooves.
I think this was made with 0,02 or 0,05mm layer height.

If you are planning to print round holes and expect a higher resolution to get you better holes that might be right, but you'd need to rework any hole on a 3D print with an electric drill anyways.
The next picture shows printed connectors with M3 nuts (the smaller connectors are ~30mm in length, 12mm height and 6mm depth) thats all printed with 0,1mm height and i pressed the nuts in the hexagonal hole with a vice and they fit perfectly.

I hope that helps you a little, even if the connectors seem to have much and big grooves the parts are very smooth, it just looks like grooves because the filament is transparent.
If you could tell me what you are planning with the Creatr HS i can give you more advises on wether the high layer resolution is good for that parts or not.


I don't own an HS but didn't think anyone was going to respond so I drew a little "vase" part last night (so it would show some surface detail) and printed it on my Creatr Dual. It's only rated for a minimum layer thickness of 50 microns but I printed this part at 25 microns. I print most of my parts at 150 microns, sometimes at 100.

Marius is correct, it depends on what you expect to achieve with such a fine layer thickness.
Keep in mind that the nozzle diameter is still 350 microns so that will be a limitation on how small any features can be.


Robert your Creatr Dual is tuned up real nice.. Great print? You gotta share your print settings and your calibration secrets! I love my Creatr Dual I still run it all the time. Seriously though I want your print settings :)


I'm willing to share but not sure if I have any secrets :-)
Although I have Simplify 3D I usually use Kisslicer. Mostly because Kiss seems to handle thin walls better, but S3D is getting better.

The other thing is I really like the filament I've been using lately. I'm on my second order of ABS. (The little vase is ABS.) I hesitate to say what it is here only because it isn't Maxx.

I still have some issues with Z banding. Not horrible but you can see it in the vase in the right light. I finally got my bed temperature to be rock solid but that didn't help that problem, so on to the next tweak!

If you want to give me your email I will share any details. Or give me a PM on one of the other forums such as the S3D forum. I usually go by Festus440. 

I emailed you Robert.

Didn't see any emails.
Try my account.
The user name is bob.eaton


Hi S. Sucho - Neotko,

Did you get the feedback that you wanted?

Do you need another perspective?

For some metric here are some points which can be considered one way of measuring the Manufacturers performance:

1. Look at the forums especially at Leapfrog and others to see how 'satisfied' the customers are - this could be you.

2. Look for how responsive, proactive, informative questions are replied to here or anywhere.

3. How active are the forums?

4. Be VERY CLEAR about what you intend to use the printer for; ask other users for their experience

5. Looking at pictures of printed parts will give you a very one sided understanding of the printer and the manufacturer - you need to understand what it takes to make any print and it is typically far far from plug and play.  There can be times when you get lucky and it works without any problems and other times you can spend hours getting the printer to produce one particular part.

6. GO and SEE the printers working, take in a number of samples and have them print them to show how well the machine can handle printing based on default settings without 'adjustment / tweaking' 

7. While it is fun though I intend to use mine for commercial purposes given the investment price tag it is not simply a hobby.

8. There is a significant investment of time required to become 'intimately' familiar with any printer to understand how to get the best out of it.

I will add some more points as they come to mind later.



Regarding prints made on 20 micron settings this is a example of a print I made and adjusted the settings myself I apologise if the quality of the photos is not very clear I took them with my phone but I printed this model 3 times and got the same result I am quite happy with the quality of the print and I am still adjusting the settings to see if I can print it at a higher speed.

That looks really nice. A shame leapfrog wasnt able to provide example photos. Wedid just bough an UM. Thanks a lot anyway


Any chance you would be willing to share the settings you used for your 20 micron print?

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Quick Start Guide

Installation clips
The following 3 clips will guide you through the installation process of your CreatrXL. By following these, you will be printing within 30 minutes. First start with unpacking the printer. Clickhere to see how you correctly pick up the printer

Part 1 of 3: Unpacking your CreatrXL

In this clip, you will be guided through the unpacking of a brand new CreatrXL. The unboxing along with the location of tie wraps which need to be removed are shown, as well as the process of a connecting the cables to the printer and computer.

Part 2 of 3: Software and configuration

In this clip, we will show you how to install the required software. The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the Repetier Host Leapfrog software or that controlls your 3D printer. We have tried to make this as simple as possible and also provided direct downloading links per operating system.

If you are using the new Simplify 3D software you can follow all the steps except for the Repetier-Host Leapfrog installation and using explanation. Simply download the software via the purchase link and before first use a pop-up will appear showing you the Simplify 3D Quick start guide. You can also download the Quick start guide or access it from the software via help –> Quick start guide. The quick start guide will briefly explain the functions of the software so that you can start your first print.

Please select you operating system and follow the descriptions in the movie.

Operating systemWindows

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the newest version of the Repetier Host Leapfrog software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. The Repetier Host Leapfrog software contains standard CreatrXL Print Profiles. Just select the extruder, the filament material as well as the color and Repetier will automatically select the ideal print temperature providing you the best print quality possible. There is also a Leapfrog support button implemented in the software. A Mac version will be available soon.

If you have followed the installation procedure, but you can’t control your Leapfrog CreatrXL and the “6 commands waiting” message in Repetier-Host Leapfrog won’t disappear, you have to install the 2.8.28 drivers. Please see Solution can’t connect 6 commands waiting in Repetier-Host Leapfrog how to do so.

For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Windows 8
To install the Arduino drivers on a computer with Windows 8 follow these steps after downloading the Arduino software.

- Save unsaved work and write the instructions down
[your computer will reboot into startup options screen]
- Press the Windows Key and the ‘R’ key simultaneously
- Copy the command inside the brackets
–>[ shutdown.exe /r /o /f /t 00 ] – Select ‘Troubleshoot’
- Select ‘Advanced options’
- Select ‘Startup Settings’
- Select ‘Disable Driver Signature Enforcement’
- Install driver as usual via device manager


In this clip, we will explain you how you can generate a STL file using Sketchup. We show you what to download and how to export your design in STL.

Part 3 of 3: Making your first print!

In this final clip, the process of creating your first print will be explained. This starts with removing the callibration print that is already on the print bed. How to insert the filament and operate the Repetier Host Leapfrog software is also shown, which should culminate in your first 3D Print on the CreatrXL!

Google sketchupHow to export STL files from Sketchup

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. You will then need to in stall this driver for OSX to recognize the hardware.

The next step is to download the Repetier software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. We have developed standard print profiles for the CreatrXL. Please follow the instructions below to install the print profiles for Mac [not yet included in the video]:

- Download This file
- Go to your Home Folder on Mac and select “Go to Folder” from the Go Menu en type “Library/Application Support/Slic3r/” - Unzip the file you just downloaded and dump the contents in the Slic3r folder, it will replace your existing settings. If you want to keep your current settings as well, take the contents from each folder and put this in the same folder in the Home/Libaray/App../Slic3r folder.

Download instructions by Deepak Dinesh Mehta For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Troubleshooting Trees

Filament Guide

  • Extrude at ~ 225o C.
  • Requires heated bed.
  • Works reasonably well without cooling.
  • Adheres best to polyimide tape.
  • Filament tolerances are usually tighter.
  • Prone to cracking, delamination, and wraping.
  • More flexible.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives or solvents(Acetone or MEK).
  • Fumes are unpleasent in enclosed areas.
  • Oil Based.
  • Extrude at ~ 180-225o C.
  • Benefits from heated bed.
  • Benefits greatly from cooling while printing.
  • Adheres well to a variety of surfaces.
  • Finer feature detail possible on a well calibrated machine.
  • Prone to curling of corners and overhangs.
  • More brittle.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives.
  • More pleasant smell when extruded.
  • Plant Based.

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