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ABS Separation

Currently have a 3d printer that suffers from my ABS prints (vases) separating while printing. I am considering buying a Leapfrog printer (creatr XL). Just wondering if anyone has a similar problem with the Leapfrog printers?


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You could have that issue with most printers especially with thin walls. It can be caused by a number of factors that mostly have to do with your slicer settings:

Try increasing the extruder temperature.

Try printing a little slower.

Try increasing the amount of extrusion.


Cool air getting to the print will cause shrinkage while printing. (Leapfrog has a printer called XEED that has a heated build chamber which would help that, but of course it is quite a bit more expensive.) You can try covering the printer to block any air getting to it.


You can also try using Kisslicer (the newest beta). It has an option to build a wall around your print which helps keep air from hitting the part.


I'm not trying to talk you out of a Creatr, just pointing out that like your current printer, the settings need to be right and that usually requires some experimenting to find what works for you. (Although the form factor of the Creatr, which is mostly enclosed already, makes it easier to cover.)



Robert,


You did not talk me out of the Creatr :)

 I have heard that enclosing the printer would help. Just not sure how that would affect the printers electronics. Most of what am trying to do does have walls that are about 3mm thick, but they still split. I have also tried putting a wall around the parts which did help, but they split also, just not as bad.


Appreciate your input

I got my printer a little over a year ago (my first). I used primarily PLA at first because I had really poor results with ABS. I worked on it though and eventually it got better.


I've been using glue stick with the bed at 60C. (for both PLA and ABS) I've been running it extruding at a pretty high temp, 240C. I've been using some dirt cheap filament that I found on eBay and it seems to work very well. Even the Kissliscer wall that I mentioned, which is only a single layer thick sticks together really well.

Robert,


Yes, I currently use a glue stick for ABS on a heated Boro glass, however I use PET plastic glued to Boro Glass with a heated bed and no adhesives for PLA. Bottom of prints are very smooth and only occasionally wipe the PET plastic down with Rubbing alcohol.


Not sure what is used on the Creatr bed, is it glass?

Yes the bed is borosilicate glass.

I have a friend who prints PLA right on the glass. Has to be perfectly clean to work.

We have a big Stratasys printer at work that prints on thick film. Probably PET also.

@Robert Eaton 


Hey, I'm not seeing the wall options in Kisslicer version 1.4.5.10 


Can I have some help please?

Sorry. It's in  the 1.5 beta version. You get download it from the forum here:
http://www.kisslicertalk.com/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=1b318579524d66811c2aeeab383ff905

 

You need to get the beta version from their forum.

 

Got it, thanks. Will be trying it out now

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Quick Start Guide

Installation clips
The following 3 clips will guide you through the installation process of your CreatrXL. By following these, you will be printing within 30 minutes. First start with unpacking the printer. Clickhere to see how you correctly pick up the printer

Part 1 of 3: Unpacking your CreatrXL

In this clip, you will be guided through the unpacking of a brand new CreatrXL. The unboxing along with the location of tie wraps which need to be removed are shown, as well as the process of a connecting the cables to the printer and computer.

Part 2 of 3: Software and configuration

In this clip, we will show you how to install the required software. The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the Repetier Host Leapfrog software or that controlls your 3D printer. We have tried to make this as simple as possible and also provided direct downloading links per operating system.

SIMPLIFY 3D SOFTWARE
If you are using the new Simplify 3D software you can follow all the steps except for the Repetier-Host Leapfrog installation and using explanation. Simply download the software via the purchase link and before first use a pop-up will appear showing you the Simplify 3D Quick start guide. You can also download the Quick start guide or access it from the software via help –> Quick start guide. The quick start guide will briefly explain the functions of the software so that you can start your first print.

Please select you operating system and follow the descriptions in the movie.

Operating systemWindows

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the newest version of the Repetier Host Leapfrog software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. The Repetier Host Leapfrog software contains standard CreatrXL Print Profiles. Just select the extruder, the filament material as well as the color and Repetier will automatically select the ideal print temperature providing you the best print quality possible. There is also a Leapfrog support button implemented in the software. A Mac version will be available soon.

If you have followed the installation procedure, but you can’t control your Leapfrog CreatrXL and the “6 commands waiting” message in Repetier-Host Leapfrog won’t disappear, you have to install the 2.8.28 drivers. Please see Solution can’t connect 6 commands waiting in Repetier-Host Leapfrog how to do so.

For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Windows 8
To install the Arduino drivers on a computer with Windows 8 follow these steps after downloading the Arduino software.

- Save unsaved work and write the instructions down
[your computer will reboot into startup options screen]
- Press the Windows Key and the ‘R’ key simultaneously
- Copy the command inside the brackets
–>[ shutdown.exe /r /o /f /t 00 ] – Select ‘Troubleshoot’
- Select ‘Advanced options’
- Select ‘Startup Settings’
- Select ‘Disable Driver Signature Enforcement’
- Install driver as usual via device manager


Mac

In this clip, we will explain you how you can generate a STL file using Sketchup. We show you what to download and how to export your design in STL.

Part 3 of 3: Making your first print!

In this final clip, the process of creating your first print will be explained. This starts with removing the callibration print that is already on the print bed. How to insert the filament and operate the Repetier Host Leapfrog software is also shown, which should culminate in your first 3D Print on the CreatrXL!

Google sketchupHow to export STL files from Sketchup

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. You will then need to in stall this driver for OSX to recognize the hardware.

The next step is to download the Repetier software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. We have developed standard print profiles for the CreatrXL. Please follow the instructions below to install the print profiles for Mac [not yet included in the video]:

- Download This file
- Go to your Home Folder on Mac and select “Go to Folder” from the Go Menu en type “Library/Application Support/Slic3r/” - Unzip the file you just downloaded and dump the contents in the Slic3r folder, it will replace your existing settings. If you want to keep your current settings as well, take the contents from each folder and put this in the same folder in the Home/Libaray/App../Slic3r folder.

Download instructions by Deepak Dinesh Mehta For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Troubleshooting Trees

Filament Guide

ABS
  • Extrude at ~ 225o C.
  • Requires heated bed.
  • Works reasonably well without cooling.
  • Adheres best to polyimide tape.
  • Filament tolerances are usually tighter.
  • Prone to cracking, delamination, and wraping.
  • More flexible.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives or solvents(Acetone or MEK).
  • Fumes are unpleasent in enclosed areas.
  • Oil Based.
PLA
  • Extrude at ~ 180-225o C.
  • Benefits from heated bed.
  • Benefits greatly from cooling while printing.
  • Adheres well to a variety of surfaces.
  • Finer feature detail possible on a well calibrated machine.
  • Prone to curling of corners and overhangs.
  • More brittle.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives.
  • More pleasant smell when extruded.
  • Plant Based.

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