just tried my first big print. while leveling the bed I noticed 2 things.
something doesnt seem straight.:
If all is straight you would expect that if all 4 corners are level everything in between is also level, well this is not the case.
the center is much higher, a few 0.1 mm ( I have to measure exactly yet but around 0.3mm, cold bed.)
Also I noticed the left tip is a little shorter than the right tip.( is this normal?)
Hi, I also have the same issue (the center being higher). Already spent days measuring and came to the same conclusion. I still have a ticket open for this.
The glass plate is level (checked it using a level & square) so it must be the X or Y axis.
Small prints are fine now BUT ONLY if I position them at the front of the plate and perform a calibration on only that area. If I then try to print it in the middle, it fails as there is a big difference in height.
Using the entire print area as advertised (and why I bought it in the first place) is NOT possible.
One extruder being lower as the other one is easily fixed.
I have measured my bed also and it seems to be higher in the middle too.
About .8 MM but that is a rough measurement as I am not sure how to exactly measure it.
I put a straight edge across the bed and you can see a definite gap. I dont see this on other bots that I have. I actually have a delta bot that was shipped to me with bad warped glass and the manufacturer replaced it, so I guess it can happen.
As I type this, I just heard back from Leapfrog - I reported my glass as warped and they are sending me a new one! - Didnt expect that quick response but they just asked me where to send it, no other questions or explination, so I assume they are aware of this problem???
Lets hope that one is flat and easy to install :-)
Anyone else get this type of response?
You should count on the materials shrinking also
FYI, I drilled out the threads in the bed and presto my curved bed was no longer, or at least, it is far less curved now.
Also, the added benefit of not needing to re-calibrate the bed all the time, I haven't touch it since.
I guess that there wasn't enough clearance for the screws, when the glass expands during heating, then it curved, drilling out the threads, gave enough clearance.
This worked for me.
Yes I also thought the creatr HS would be better, but I also found out it was a quick shot and some things aren't finished developed and some problems here and there. I call it a good beta. I also do my own changes but all that can be built back. If they consider and solve the actual problems, the next will be a good machine.
Marcel there are plug and play machines, these are the pro machines. they really are plug and play 99% of the time, but no material choice, and very expensive material and machine. but it really is plug and play open STL and push print. seriously ( i have one at work)
I am just going to try the trick with giving the glass bed more room to expand, I turned off 0.5mm of the diameter of the screws just where the glass plate sits, have to see if this helps.
Marc did your solution work? Could you elaborate on exactly what you did? Thanks
Marcel- based on what Jens said, instead of drilling threads into the bed and voiding the warranty, why not use smaller bolts. I just took them out and measured them, they're M6 bolts of 30mm height. If they're replaced with M5 bolts of the same height, and two nuts are used (above the glass plate and below the metal plate), then the threads in the metal plate become redundant and the height can be changed by tightening or loosening the lower nut. The glass plate might move around by a total of 1mm but after heating up the plate, theoretically the expansion would prevent that. This is just a theory. I plan to test it out. Does anyone see a problem with this solution?
The following 3 clips will guide you through the installation process of your CreatrXL. By following these, you will be printing within 30 minutes. First start with unpacking the printer. Clickhere to see how you correctly pick up the printer
In this clip, you will be guided through the unpacking of a brand new CreatrXL. The unboxing along with the location of tie wraps which need to be removed are shown, as well as the process of a connecting the cables to the printer and computer.
In this clip, we will show you how to install the required software. The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the Repetier Host Leapfrog software or that controlls your 3D printer. We have tried to make this as simple as possible and also provided direct downloading links per operating system.
SIMPLIFY 3D SOFTWARE
If you are using the new Simplify 3D software you can follow all the steps except for the Repetier-Host Leapfrog installation and using explanation. Simply download the software via the purchase link and before first use a pop-up will appear showing you the Simplify 3D Quick start guide. You can also download the Quick start guide or access it from the software via help –> Quick start guide. The quick start guide will briefly explain the functions of the software so that you can start your first print.
Please select you operating system and follow the descriptions in the movie.
The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the newest version of the Repetier Host Leapfrog software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. The Repetier Host Leapfrog software contains standard CreatrXL Print Profiles. Just select the extruder, the filament material as well as the color and Repetier will automatically select the ideal print temperature providing you the best print quality possible. There is also a Leapfrog support button implemented in the software. A Mac version will be available soon.
If you have followed the installation procedure, but you can’t control your Leapfrog CreatrXL and the “6 commands waiting” message in Repetier-Host Leapfrog won’t disappear, you have to install the 2.8.28 drivers. Please see Solution can’t connect 6 commands waiting in Repetier-Host Leapfrog how to do so.
For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!
To install the Arduino drivers on a computer with Windows 8 follow these steps after downloading the Arduino software.
- Save unsaved work and write the instructions down
[your computer will reboot into startup options screen]
- Press the Windows Key and the ‘R’ key simultaneously
- Copy the command inside the brackets
–>[ shutdown.exe /r /o /f /t 00 ] – Select ‘Troubleshoot’
- Select ‘Advanced options’
- Select ‘Startup Settings’
- Select ‘Disable Driver Signature Enforcement’
- Install driver as usual via device manager
In this clip, we will explain you how you can generate a STL file using Sketchup. We show you what to download and how to export your design in STL.
In this final clip, the process of creating your first print will be explained. This starts with removing the callibration print that is already on the print bed. How to insert the filament and operate the Repetier Host Leapfrog software is also shown, which should culminate in your first 3D Print on the CreatrXL!
The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. You will then need to in stall this driver for OSX to recognize the hardware.
The next step is to download the Repetier software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. We have developed standard print profiles for the CreatrXL. Please follow the instructions below to install the print profiles for Mac [not yet included in the video]:
- Download This file
- Go to your Home Folder on Mac and select “Go to Folder” from the Go Menu en type “Library/Application Support/Slic3r/” - Unzip the file you just downloaded and dump the contents in the Slic3r folder, it will replace your existing settings. If you want to keep your current settings as well, take the contents from each folder and put this in the same folder in the Home/Libaray/App../Slic3r folder.
Download instructions by Deepak Dinesh Mehta For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!
Please request a firmware download via the Ticket System