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Firmware Update and Reset

Hello!


After having several strange issues with my Leapfrog Creatr Dual, my printer suddenly started loosing his location during the print. This happened several times with different setting, so I eventually had to stop every print.

I was told that the firmware needs to be reset or updated in order to fix this.


Does anyone know how to do that and which software to use exactly? I tried to find something on this homepage, but I seems that everything was removed. I also tried to find alternative instructions and software on other sites, but they all lead me back here eventually, where I got the message that the page does not exist any more.

I am really desperate right now, can anybody help me please?


Thank you very much,

Alexandra

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Dear Alexandra,


actually I solved the problem , it was exactly the X axis grab holder problem. (for my problem )


for video :


http://we.tl/rwfNcqEVEY


I heard that creatr was very problematic, since the extruder completely changed seems problems "changed" not disappeared. 


I can not recommend you to purchase creatr hs because it has other design issues (for example new fan design under the extruders is very very bad idea. It melts after first print ).




Hi!


Do you want an honest answer? Well... I am about to return the Printer to my reseller. Since more and more Troubles appeared, theyargeed to take the Printer back and give me a different model in return.

But to answer your quesion: The Motherboard helped a Little, but not a lot. Eventually I could regain control of the y- and z-axis, but the x-axis never worked correctly again. The Quality of the prints did not get better as well. Do you have Pictures or videos of the prints? They might be helpful!


Sorry, that I can not help you more!


Best wishes and good luck with the Printer - You will Need it!

were you able to test the new motherboard, I have similar problem with my HS now


Hi Jeff!


Thank you for your reply and sorry for my late answer!

I already tried to print with different Settings, but it seemed, that the printer head was not stable. It seemed that it somehow slipped, if that is the correct word.

Leapfrog replaced the Motherboard of my Printer, so maybe that was part of the Problem. So far I can not say much about that, because I have not been able to test the new Motherboard yet. But to be honest, I am not sure, if that was really the Problem..,.

However, I will definitely try your Suggestion and Report as soon as I get results.


Thank you for your help!


Alexandra

From the images, I would say that the temperature is too low. Here's my suggestion...
- Start with a simple calibration print, such as http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:11846
- Print with a HIGH temperature (See the temperature range of the filament)
- If there are no "strings" then the temperature is fine. You can lower 5 degrees and try again.
- If there are "strings" then the temperature is too low. Raise the temperature by 5 degrees and try again.

 

I started printing yesterday and everything seemed to be ok so far, although the printer lost the y-postition again, but only during the first layer.

During the second layer, the filament did not stick on the first layer correctly, but since there was a knot in the material, I supposed that this caused the tensions. Or could there be another reason for this? I had the same problem with a completely different filament and different settings, but there was also a knot in it.

Furthermore the surface got 'bubbles'. I experienced that on a few other prints before, also with different settings and filaments (btw I use PLA). I used to think that the filament might have been wet, but since it occured with different new filaments...

I continued the print nontheless, since it seemend to get better after five layers or so, but during the nighttime, the print suddenly broke from the bed. At some point the filament appearently stopped flowing, and the printer continued empty. Furthermore it appeared that the support material was only generated after about six or seven layers. Is this a slicing mistake?
I did not think all of this this would be a serious problem, but then I discovered that I lost control over all the axis. It is not even possible to send the printer back to the home position.
What shall I do now? Shall I upload the firmware again? Or is there something seriously damaged?

Thank you,
Alexandra

 

Ok, thank you!

I will report as soon as I get (or don't get) results...

The bug is only with the x-axis jog control when the left extruder is selected as far as I know. As long as you don't use the jog controls while the left extruder is selected I would think you would be ok, (I haven't tested that however.)

 

Ok, so does that mean, that the print will continue without Troubles after pausing it? Because I would like to print something very large and I will definitely have to Change the Filament. Or is it better if I fill both Extruders and activate the second as soon as the first runs out of Filament?

If you have the left extruder selected you will see the problem with the print head not being able to be moved to the left.
It is a known bug.

As far as the possible wire issue, you may be able to solder the loose wire. Otherwise you would need to get a replacement cable from Leapfrog.

 

Thank you very much!


All the screws are tight and I experienced just what you said when I tried to move the Print head.


I already got the Firmware and finished my first print, which was really ok.

However, I experienced something strange after the print was finished. I could not control the movement in the X-axis any more. The print head would only move to the right side, but not back again. The other axis seem to work fine. The same Thing occurs when I stop midprint. As soon as I reconnect the Printer, everything is fine again,.

What could be the reason for this?


I will also try to find out, if the wires caused a Problem.

If that is the reason, how can it be fixed?


Thank you so much for your help!

Alexandra

A couple more thoughts:

A loose wire or bad end stop switch could cause this problem (The little switches that are used to home the print head.) These switches are normally "closed" so a loose connection or bad switch will cause the printer to lose it's place. It will also generate an end stop hit error in the log file of the host software but if you have verbose mode turned on (the default) it will scroll of the top of the screen before you see it. Copy and paste the log into notepad so that you can look for errors, or turn off verbose mode so that only errors are shown on the screen. 


A loose stepper motor wire might cause this also.

Print a large hollow cylinder and start moving the wires while it's printing to see if you can make the problem happen.

 

It seems unlikely that a firmware problem would cause this.

Make sure that the set screws (grub screws) on the pulleys on the X and Y axis stepper motors are tight.

Also check that the clamps on the Y axis belts are tight.


Home the print head and then see if you it you can move it with your hand. It should be difficult to move.

Then disable the motors and make sure the print head moves easily. You may need to clean and oil the bearing rods.


To update the firmware you need to get the latest version from Leapfrog by putting in a support ticket. (The version of firmware depends on your specific build.)


The instructions for uploading the firmware are in the User Manual. There are links to the manual on the index page of this forum.

http://creatr.lpfrg.com/support/discussions




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Quick Start Guide

Installation clips
The following 3 clips will guide you through the installation process of your CreatrXL. By following these, you will be printing within 30 minutes. First start with unpacking the printer. Clickhere to see how you correctly pick up the printer

Part 1 of 3: Unpacking your CreatrXL

In this clip, you will be guided through the unpacking of a brand new CreatrXL. The unboxing along with the location of tie wraps which need to be removed are shown, as well as the process of a connecting the cables to the printer and computer.

Part 2 of 3: Software and configuration

In this clip, we will show you how to install the required software. The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the Repetier Host Leapfrog software or that controlls your 3D printer. We have tried to make this as simple as possible and also provided direct downloading links per operating system.

SIMPLIFY 3D SOFTWARE
If you are using the new Simplify 3D software you can follow all the steps except for the Repetier-Host Leapfrog installation and using explanation. Simply download the software via the purchase link and before first use a pop-up will appear showing you the Simplify 3D Quick start guide. You can also download the Quick start guide or access it from the software via help –> Quick start guide. The quick start guide will briefly explain the functions of the software so that you can start your first print.

Please select you operating system and follow the descriptions in the movie.

Operating systemWindows

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the newest version of the Repetier Host Leapfrog software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. The Repetier Host Leapfrog software contains standard CreatrXL Print Profiles. Just select the extruder, the filament material as well as the color and Repetier will automatically select the ideal print temperature providing you the best print quality possible. There is also a Leapfrog support button implemented in the software. A Mac version will be available soon.

If you have followed the installation procedure, but you can’t control your Leapfrog CreatrXL and the “6 commands waiting” message in Repetier-Host Leapfrog won’t disappear, you have to install the 2.8.28 drivers. Please see Solution can’t connect 6 commands waiting in Repetier-Host Leapfrog how to do so.

For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Windows 8
To install the Arduino drivers on a computer with Windows 8 follow these steps after downloading the Arduino software.

- Save unsaved work and write the instructions down
[your computer will reboot into startup options screen]
- Press the Windows Key and the ‘R’ key simultaneously
- Copy the command inside the brackets
–>[ shutdown.exe /r /o /f /t 00 ] – Select ‘Troubleshoot’
- Select ‘Advanced options’
- Select ‘Startup Settings’
- Select ‘Disable Driver Signature Enforcement’
- Install driver as usual via device manager


Mac

In this clip, we will explain you how you can generate a STL file using Sketchup. We show you what to download and how to export your design in STL.

Part 3 of 3: Making your first print!

In this final clip, the process of creating your first print will be explained. This starts with removing the callibration print that is already on the print bed. How to insert the filament and operate the Repetier Host Leapfrog software is also shown, which should culminate in your first 3D Print on the CreatrXL!

Google sketchupHow to export STL files from Sketchup

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. You will then need to in stall this driver for OSX to recognize the hardware.

The next step is to download the Repetier software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. We have developed standard print profiles for the CreatrXL. Please follow the instructions below to install the print profiles for Mac [not yet included in the video]:

- Download This file
- Go to your Home Folder on Mac and select “Go to Folder” from the Go Menu en type “Library/Application Support/Slic3r/” - Unzip the file you just downloaded and dump the contents in the Slic3r folder, it will replace your existing settings. If you want to keep your current settings as well, take the contents from each folder and put this in the same folder in the Home/Libaray/App../Slic3r folder.

Download instructions by Deepak Dinesh Mehta For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Troubleshooting Trees

Filament Guide

ABS
  • Extrude at ~ 225o C.
  • Requires heated bed.
  • Works reasonably well without cooling.
  • Adheres best to polyimide tape.
  • Filament tolerances are usually tighter.
  • Prone to cracking, delamination, and wraping.
  • More flexible.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives or solvents(Acetone or MEK).
  • Fumes are unpleasent in enclosed areas.
  • Oil Based.
PLA
  • Extrude at ~ 180-225o C.
  • Benefits from heated bed.
  • Benefits greatly from cooling while printing.
  • Adheres well to a variety of surfaces.
  • Finer feature detail possible on a well calibrated machine.
  • Prone to curling of corners and overhangs.
  • More brittle.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives.
  • More pleasant smell when extruded.
  • Plant Based.

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