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How to print correctly filaflex filament with Creatr-repetier?

Hi!

I am trying to print an object with filaflex and pva as support.

I have 2 problems :


- The major : During printing the extrusion of filaflex stops because it loose the alignement(  after one retractation, i guess).

- The minor : When pla is printing, filaflex continue to flow (which is not a problem now because my object is small but will be a problem when i will do a bigger one


I tried 230° and 220° temperature for filaflex. You can find my gcode here

I could print something without support, but not very clean and note complete.


Does someone succeed to do such a print? How?



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I succeed in keeping the filaflex  flow working until the end  by keeping the filament in my hand and not directly by tubes.

But the result is not clean at all. this is not a demisphere :s. I will try with others parameters of infill (for now density 0.4 and rectilinear) and let you know

Hi Caroline,

Did you have succeed with the filaflex??

I have tried all temps between 230-260 degrees, and speeds going down to 20 mm/s. I have also tried cooling the filament, but 30 minutes into the print, the filament bunches up and everything comes to a screeching halt. I noted that the bunching occurs when the extruder motor heats up to a certain degree, and the metal parts feeding the filament are almost too hot to touch. Design problem maybe? I've talked to Recreus in Spain, and they say that they do not have an extruder that is compatible, even though it is listed on their site that it is. I've looked at the E3D extruders, and they look like something that would probably work, and better than the stock extruders available. There is a suggestion of drilling out the tube to the hot end to 4 mm, and getting some 4mm OD/ 2mm ID PTFE tubing to retrofit, and wondered if anyone has tried this. The E3D package is 40 pounds and I'm not sure if that is compatible or not. 


I would live to hear any opinions on this, as there are some projects that require flexible material for handles (no, not sex toys), and I need to be able to know one way or the other.


Best Regards,

Eliza

OK--one other thought--the smaller the nozzle size, the higher the back pressure. If the back pressure is part of the problem, going up on the nozzle diameter might be a work-around. I am using a stock 0.35mm nozzle, and it definitely has problems, so perhaps going up on the nozzle diameter might work. Once again I am open to any thoughts on this.

Dear Elizabeth Donavan,


In order to print fila flex on the Creatr Dual printer I would suggest having a look at the link below and see the adaptor a Leapfrog Creatr user developed in order to print ninja flex on his Creatr Dual.


http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:321258


I believe this might help you with printing fila flex.


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Quick Start Guide

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The following 3 clips will guide you through the installation process of your CreatrXL. By following these, you will be printing within 30 minutes. First start with unpacking the printer. Clickhere to see how you correctly pick up the printer

Part 1 of 3: Unpacking your CreatrXL

In this clip, you will be guided through the unpacking of a brand new CreatrXL. The unboxing along with the location of tie wraps which need to be removed are shown, as well as the process of a connecting the cables to the printer and computer.

Part 2 of 3: Software and configuration

In this clip, we will show you how to install the required software. The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the Repetier Host Leapfrog software or that controlls your 3D printer. We have tried to make this as simple as possible and also provided direct downloading links per operating system.

SIMPLIFY 3D SOFTWARE
If you are using the new Simplify 3D software you can follow all the steps except for the Repetier-Host Leapfrog installation and using explanation. Simply download the software via the purchase link and before first use a pop-up will appear showing you the Simplify 3D Quick start guide. You can also download the Quick start guide or access it from the software via help –> Quick start guide. The quick start guide will briefly explain the functions of the software so that you can start your first print.

Please select you operating system and follow the descriptions in the movie.

Operating systemWindows

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. The next step is to download and install the newest version of the Repetier Host Leapfrog software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. The Repetier Host Leapfrog software contains standard CreatrXL Print Profiles. Just select the extruder, the filament material as well as the color and Repetier will automatically select the ideal print temperature providing you the best print quality possible. There is also a Leapfrog support button implemented in the software. A Mac version will be available soon.

If you have followed the installation procedure, but you can’t control your Leapfrog CreatrXL and the “6 commands waiting” message in Repetier-Host Leapfrog won’t disappear, you have to install the 2.8.28 drivers. Please see Solution can’t connect 6 commands waiting in Repetier-Host Leapfrog how to do so.

For a more thorough description of Slic3s settings please check this guide!

Windows 8
To install the Arduino drivers on a computer with Windows 8 follow these steps after downloading the Arduino software.

- Save unsaved work and write the instructions down
[your computer will reboot into startup options screen]
- Press the Windows Key and the ‘R’ key simultaneously
- Copy the command inside the brackets
–>[ shutdown.exe /r /o /f /t 00 ] – Select ‘Troubleshoot’
- Select ‘Advanced options’
- Select ‘Startup Settings’
- Select ‘Disable Driver Signature Enforcement’
- Install driver as usual via device manager


Mac

In this clip, we will explain you how you can generate a STL file using Sketchup. We show you what to download and how to export your design in STL.

Part 3 of 3: Making your first print!

In this final clip, the process of creating your first print will be explained. This starts with removing the callibration print that is already on the print bed. How to insert the filament and operate the Repetier Host Leapfrog software is also shown, which should culminate in your first 3D Print on the CreatrXL!

Google sketchupHow to export STL files from Sketchup

The first step is to download and install the Arduino software to make it possible for your computer to connect with the printer. You will then need to in stall this driver for OSX to recognize the hardware.

The next step is to download the Repetier software as shown in the clip. This software allows you to convert your 3D software file [STL for example] to a printable file [G-Code] and allows you to control your printer. We have developed standard print profiles for the CreatrXL. Please follow the instructions below to install the print profiles for Mac [not yet included in the video]:

- Download This file
- Go to your Home Folder on Mac and select “Go to Folder” from the Go Menu en type “Library/Application Support/Slic3r/” - Unzip the file you just downloaded and dump the contents in the Slic3r folder, it will replace your existing settings. If you want to keep your current settings as well, take the contents from each folder and put this in the same folder in the Home/Libaray/App../Slic3r folder.

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Filament Guide

ABS
  • Extrude at ~ 225o C.
  • Requires heated bed.
  • Works reasonably well without cooling.
  • Adheres best to polyimide tape.
  • Filament tolerances are usually tighter.
  • Prone to cracking, delamination, and wraping.
  • More flexible.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives or solvents(Acetone or MEK).
  • Fumes are unpleasent in enclosed areas.
  • Oil Based.
PLA
  • Extrude at ~ 180-225o C.
  • Benefits from heated bed.
  • Benefits greatly from cooling while printing.
  • Adheres well to a variety of surfaces.
  • Finer feature detail possible on a well calibrated machine.
  • Prone to curling of corners and overhangs.
  • More brittle.
  • Can be bonded using adhesives.
  • More pleasant smell when extruded.
  • Plant Based.

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